Candace Owens has bad blood for Taylor Swift, accusing the superstar of manipulating her young fans for personal gain and injecting liberal politics into her songs. The conservative speaker and documentary filmmaker delivered her judgment on a premier version of the DailyWire’s podcast, telling listeners Swift’s “toxic feminism” is setting women back decades.

“She’s the most toxic feminist that’s ever existed,” said Owens, “and what she does is basically, the threat is if she doesn’t get what she wants she writes a song about a guy and then has 15 million girls sing the songs and drops little clues so they know who it’s about. It’s totally psychotic if you really think about it.”